Revival: A Generation Awakening

Something shifts when you realize the prayer you’ve carried for years is already being answered. We walk through that exact moment as we reflect on One Conference, a gathering of around 4,000 teenagers in Atlantic Canada, and the growing sense that a genuine youth revival is unfolding in schools and communities right now.

We talk about the difference between asking God to move and learning to recognize where the Holy Spirit is already at work. That thread leads us into the prophetic question God asks throughout Scripture: “Do you see this?” We connect it to Ezekiel’s river of life and Isaiah’s “new thing,” and we explore why spiritual discernment isn’t about hype, it’s about perceiving the unseen work beneath what your eyes can measure.

From prayer ministry lines to spontaneous groups praying in the arena, we share stories that ground this awakening in real fruit: physical healing, honest repentance, deep tenderness, and a moment that stopped us cold, three middle school girls asking for prayer to forgive their bullies and to see them come to know Jesus. We also name a challenge for older leaders: champion the next generation, serve their calling, and refuse the impulse to control what God is doing.

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Transcript

Welcome And Being Sent

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Hearing God Podcast. I'm Anthony Moore, and I'm Dan Lamus. For over a decade, Anthony and I have been diving deep into weekly conversations about the prophetic, the mystical, and the matters of the heart.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

And we invite you into these weekly conversations. We hope you feel like an honored guest at our table. So pull up a chair, settle in, and let's get started.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Well, here we are. Here we are.

SPEAKER_02 0:29

Here we are. Here we are.

SPEAKER_01 0:30

Yes. Yeah. How's it going, Dan? It's been going real well. Yeah. Really well. Um, you know that you know now that we had the conversation a few weeks ago. Whenever we say here we are, I want to say send us. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 0:47

I am I think we are sent uh a hundred percent. Oh absolutely. And and still the the the invitation is ever present already.

SPEAKER_01 0:56

Yes, yeah. I uh had this uh I had this combo uh prophetic word, dad joke, humor many years ago when a friend of mine, a pastor friend of mine here in the city, Pastor Dave McElhaney. Yeah, um he uh one day we were having a big conversation about being sent. Yeah. And he he wrote something down on a piece of paper, and he said, Your your value to the Lord in the city is one cent. One cent. And I was like, okay, that's that's an awesome prophetic word, and it's really bad dad humor. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:40

So I'm worth one cent to God. There you go. So let let that put that in your pipe and smoke. That's awesome. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 1:50

Yeah, what so anyway, yes, sent people. That's good. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely true. That's good. I

Why God Asks Questions

SPEAKER_01 1:56

think I've been I've been living in the zone lately of the very intriguing questions God tends to ask. I'm learning, I'm uh, I'm being reminded of the value of God's questions. Yeah, and um, so I'm I'm just really appreciating the the what's wrapped up in that. I think it takes it takes some walking some miles with God before you realize it most of his questions are questions I won't be able to answer in a in a moment. Yeah, if he asks me a question, I'm gonna need some time. You're gonna need some time. And he actually doesn't need to hear my answer for his benefit.

SPEAKER_02 2:37

Right. Well, I yeah, that's uh that's that's actually great. I mean, again, I don't know if he I don't know if he asks questions for his own benefit, but I think he I think he's just not really waiting for my answer to inform him of much. Exactly. Um but uh you know one of the things I've been sort of been resting on is is the Lord's I think I have been very aware of his unrelenting um his unrelenting either desire or presence to like there's there's some part of you know I will never leave you or forsake you. Uh and I have been aware of his unrelenting sort of desire commitment to uh to to do his work in you, right? To get to get you where he wants you to go. Right.

SPEAKER_01 3:40

I don't know, like there's just something that really matters to him at a deeper level than we've considered.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

I know, and I just really matters to him. It's like really to me at some point it's at points it's unexplainable because a lot of times I sort of and I think we all do, sort of measure like that, like if we if we're even paying attention to that at all, God's desire to accomplish his purposes in and through an individual. Right. Uh we pay attention to it less, but at some times it feels deeper and more transcendent than I could possibly ever imagine. Right. Then there's just it's just it's there. I'm aware it's there, but I'm not sure I completely understand it. Right. And it's just this weird, this weird thing that I just have this deep sense of like, okay, Anthony, where you are in the stage of your life, the things that uh, you know, the things that make you, you know, happy, the things that that frustrate you, the things that uh you're currently wrestling with, all of that. There is a there's this underlying, even if it's not even on the surface, but there's there's this deep thing where I just seem to be aware at times of like the Lord's like, I'm with you, I'm not going anywhere, and I'm gonna accomplish my purposes in and through you. Right. And and I go, like, I'm not even convinced. Yeah, right. Like, yeah, I'm not even convinced of the things that I feel like you've called me to, but here I am, here we are, here we are, yeah. Here I am, send me. But like that, that but I just am aware of his the depth, and it it's just it's almost like just it's there, I know it's there, but it's hard to comprehend if if that makes any sense.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

You know what's really funny? It's really funny as you're talking because I'm I'm uh intently with you, and um and it's funny, it's like this is okay, everybody just give me some grace for a little poetic whatever here. But it's like you know, we love to say, here we are. Yeah, um, here I am. You know, I I wonder sometimes if in the middle of that relentless drive of God to accomplish his purposes in and through me causes me to ask in mystery and curiosity and sometimes the fear of the Lord, where am I? It's like, okay, I can I can say with boldness and confidence on a given day, here I am, Lord. And then he begins to press in with that relentless thing you're talking about. And I find myself going, Where am I? Like, because of because of the one wonder of it. Like it's when you hit something like that, Anthony, where there's this awareness, God, you are you are more intently, you are more intently into accomplishing your purposes in and through me than I am. How is that, God? Like, how does that work? How do I find myself in this place where you are waiting on me to get going because or to sit still and be quiet, whichever way it is for a person on a given day. But you are intent about the conversation you're having with me because you're incredibly into it. Yeah, who am I that you are that into the your purposes in and through my life? Yeah. That's where that's where I that I think that's the wonder of this whole thing is God, who who am like that a God that you would be this intent to do your purposes in and through me. Who who am I? Like, who am I that you would do that? And somehow he goes, you know, you're hidden with Christ in in me. Yep. Like you are you you don't you don't know as wonderful as you think this life is with me, and it is truly glorious. You you do not fully understand it, and you won't in on into forever, you'll be discovering it all the way, you know.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

Anyways, yeah, no, that's uh we just we went deep real quick there, but uh thank you everybody for your grace and hearing me out on that. I just it was just bubbling up. Yeah, no, that's good, that's really good. I think and I think people, if they stop long enough to pay attention, are gonna notice things like that. Because I think I think that's a that's that's at least a you know, you have to be a little mystical to sort of wonder about those kinds of things for sure. Yep. Um, and I think everyone is a little mystical. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

So yes, that's right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:38

So yeah. Um, one of the things I think I think I want to get to just maybe what we really felt like we should talk about today. Um,

One Conference And Youth Revival

SPEAKER_02 8:46

and I wanted to carry the conversation forward about revival. Um, and you and I were both at um an event this past weekend. It was basically uh something called one con or one conference, and it was really this gathering of 4,000 teenagers. Um with with um that's essentially what they do, the whole the whole premise and the purpose and the you know the thing behind one con is that there's across our region, for those of you don't know, is like where we come from the maritime region. So there's three main provinces there's there's New Brunswick, there's Prince Edward Island, there's Nova Scotia. And basically, there's been a call over the last number of years to come together, regardless of what church you attend, to lower the banner of whatever church that you attend to and raise the banner of King Jesus. And that's sort of sort of like the the ethos, the vision behind it. And we've seen that. Um, you know, Dan and I have been sort of a part of that over since it's really its inception, yeah, uh, in varying roles. But um what we have noticed is that uh the the heart and the appetite have to participate in that event have grown. It seems like God is moving in the region in specific ways, and we've we've just we've kind of been privileged to just have a a view, yeah. Like just really be in the room. Yeah. Um one of the things that um you know, one of the things that it's it's notable to to sort of observe is that it appears as though uh from the testimony of hearing you know teens explain really through uh you know, through alpha, youth alpha, those kinds of things which most people might be familiar with, uh, which is starting a Christian, a Christian club where they ask alpha type questions, what the big questions like about God, yeah, about God, the Bible, you know, and and really the openness to be able to ask any question, like even the even at a teenager asking the really big hard questions, right? But creating a space for that. And so this organized really essentially what's happening is that all across our region, we have these youth that are, you know, feel the nudge from God to come and and start in their school uh this organization. And really the testimony of how number one, the the provision of God, you know, even in the face of some resistance, right? Right, and then even the breakthrough that comes from that, but it really seems yeah, and maybe it's very mature wisdom in high school students to wait it out.

SPEAKER_01 11:50

Absolutely come back around and ask again. Yes, absolutely. And and then the administration says, well, yeah, okay. Yeah, it's good. We we'll go for it. Go for it. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Yeah. And so I I guess maybe from your from your take, from your vantage point, Dan, what what yeah, what are the things that you've noticed? Because I think what we're what we sort of commonly are observing is there does seem to be a move of God happening regionally in our youth. Yes, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

So yeah, yeah. So for for for many years and a few decades, we we and many others have been been praying God. We want to see an awakening, revival movement amongst the youth of our region. And we've been praying for that intently, passionately, and especially as it relates, not especially, but today, specifically about one conference. We have said, okay, one conference may very well be the venue, God, where you want to really you want to use that as a catalyst for this awakening movement. This a revival movement with youth in our region. And we've been pressing into that, asking God and dreaming, oh, what if this happened? God, what here's the vision. Oh, how amazing would it be for that to happen? And I arrived in the very first session of one conference on on the Friday night.

When Prayer Shifts To Gratitude

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Um, and within 10, 15 minutes, I was aware of the fact that my prayer needed to shift. Okay. From what if you would do this, God? Would you do this? How long to you do this? We won't give up, God, we're gonna keep pressing until we see it. I was very aware, I was seeing it.

SPEAKER_03 13:32

Wow, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

And in it was this mixture of like it was like a searching awareness in me to say, Dan, will you accept that you're looking at the thing that all of you have been praying for for many years? Wow. Will you say, will you, will you embrace this and accept and embrace this and say, God, this is the thing we've been praying for. Right. It's happening. Right. And I, as I stood at the back of the arena looking out over this whole thing over the worship, and then we began to hear video testimonies from kids talking about what's happening in their schools, including healings and in very unlikely kids coming to Jesus and all these things. Um, I was just surrendering my heart to say, God, I'm willing to begin saying, Yeah, there is a revival movement happening amongst the youth of Atlantic Canada, and this is it. As ordinary as these kids seem, yeah, and as ordinary as this moment seems, yes, yeah. And my prayer, I haven't figured out yet what my prayer is, but it's something like something like more of this God, protect this and give wisdom to those of us who lead to actually give context for these youth. Yeah. To know what to encourage in them, you know, keep going with this.

SPEAKER_02 14:55

And maybe to be like the champions of a younger generation, as opposed to the owners of the thing. We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna do it. Right, we're gonna do it, and you guys are gonna, we're gonna tell you guys what to do. It's really seems to be um, it seems to work. Let me just say, this this move of God seems to be working in an environment where the uh young people, teenagers specifically, are finding themselves raised up with a call and a mandate to do a certain thing. And then the adult or the leader in their life serves as a a resource to that vision, right? Right, to be a cheerleader as opposed to someone who says, Well, we really know what's going on here. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_01 15:43

And and I think to, I mean, I imagine that to a to a population of youth throughout the region, they may they may look at many intercessors and leaders who are saying to them, This is truly amazing what's happening here, guys. Whatever we can do to help you, we want to, and giving some definition to what's happening, just giving like handles. Um we're endorsing what they're already doing. I think that was the humbling part was recognizing, oh wow, God, this has been happening, and I'm just hearing about it. There was this I had to humble my heart to say, Well, that's actually awesome. Like it's actually awesome. Yep. I didn't know about all these things, and I'm just finding out, and a group of students are telling me about it. I was like, okay, so that steps back into that thing of saying, because to this group of students, they may not have any idea why I'm endorsing it so strongly, or many other leaders out around, yeah, any adult leaders that we would be so enthusiastic about endorsing it, they may not know why. We know why, because we've had this conversation with God over time. Yeah, all they're doing is they're just living in the world. They're just doing their thing, they're just doing and we're saying, hey, guys, keep rolling. This is good. Right in the car. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

Because context is sort of like different depending on where you're like again, context would be different from you, who's been sort of uh bleeding and you know, paying the price for this for the last number of decades, yeah. You know, versus someone who's you know 16 years old, sees a need and wants to fill the fill the I could start one of those alpha groups in my high school. Yeah. I'm gonna do it. Well, I think I think, yeah, and totally, I think I want to just, but one of the things that we you know I wanted to touch on was there was definitely a um a common testimony to the fearlessness of these leaders, right? And even

Courage That Turns Into Action

SPEAKER_02 17:47

perhaps even and not to say that they're with completely without fear, but you mean the there's you yeah, the fearlessness of the student leaders, yeah, yeah, the fearlessness of the ones willing to take a stand, the fearlessness of of you know, even uh to a larger extent a generation. And so one of the things that was one of the things that's that's really conspicuous for me, and just having been in connected to and real related to youth and youth ministry uh over the years, and I know my own experience. Yeah, and just to say that even like 20, 25 years ago, you know, we had seen uh maybe one individual being raised up with some boldness, yeah, some courage to be the one that I'm gonna go first, I'm gonna take the stand. Right. And then uh then others would follow. So it's not like any anybody, you know, not everyone was without courage except for this one person, but it was really behind maybe this one person. Right. Well, now, sort of 25 years later, it seems like those, those with boldness and those with courage, there seems to be a whole lot of those people. Yeah, right. And it seems to be this this this vein of courage seems to be prominent in this generation where it may not have been as prominent in generations past. Yeah. I just what do you what do you think about what do you think about that?

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, like to me, it's uh it it it's the courage that courage that I should do something, and then very quickly to, and I'm going and I should do it right now, and so here I go doing it. It's that courage that moves from an idea to actually taking action within a short period of time. And yeah, and I do remember, you know, one or two or whatever individuals back over the back over the decades where that was a mark on their life. They didn't just talk about cool stuff Jesus could do in their school. Yeah, they just went ahead and showed up and in and they were expectant that Jesus was going to do awesome things, and he did, but it was like very isolated. One here, one here, one here, maybe even not that many. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. And then now too, it seemed like I totally agree. It was a room full of that characteristic, and it was over it was overwhelming in a beautiful way, yeah. But it was kind of it was unavoidable, like unavoidable in the room to say either I will deny what's happening here, right? Right, or I can actually embrace this as this is happening.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

Totally. And I think that I think the the part of it is that we hurt like I made I have made my own sort of um assessment of that, right? Right in the room. And then to hear leader after leader after leader sort of begin to testify not only to the same thing, but here's how here are the here are the teens in my area that are doing this thing that is requiring a measure of courage, leadership, persistence, you know, boldness, those kinds of things. And it just seems, you know, it it reminds me of a little bit of I had, and maybe I've talked about it, I'm pretty sure I have this this vision I had of the map of Canada at night. And really it was a it was connected to revival, but it was like sometimes in the past where we've seen the moves of God happen in the past, there would be centered around either a church or a specific city, like we've had Toronto in the 90s, Brownsville in the 90s, you know, had Azusa Street, we've had the Welsh Revival, we've had the Hebrides, those, those kinds of things, and and others. But um, but it's been centralized around sort of a small geographic area. Right. Right. And I I've and in the vision, what I what I saw was this map of Canada kind of from space, but at night. And I saw these little flames start to pop up everywhere, right? Rather than a large flame in a city, it started to be spreading out from there. These little flames started to pop up throughout, you know, the Maritimes, throughout the name, and then ultimately throughout the nation. And I thought, I thought, I'm I'm seeing something here, right? That draws me to that, I'm that draws me to that image, that vision, which I think, you know, again, as much as we can have a sense that it was from the Lord, you know, I I but that vision has stayed with me, you know, acutely over the years. Right. But again, I I feel like, you know, as I contemplate what I saw on the weekend and and I okay, and I measure that against and I measure that against the vision. I'm I'm like, okay, well, I'm seeing something here that looks like that vision. And so good. It's and it's really just a testimony to the goodness of God, the grace, and it and really like his heart for his people and heart for his purposes on the earth, really. And hey, we're we're part of that too. So yeah. Uh in maybe um I love it. Yeah, and I think what I would love to know is like what you know, we like one of the things that you were you were doing this weekend was uh you were part of the sick, like the prayer ministry team. Right, yeah, right. Um like we talked about the kinds of things that we saw, right? The kinds of right we we let's say we both observed the advancement of the kingdom. Right. Like what are the kinds of things that you saw that were testified of that God was doing?

SPEAKER_01 23:43

Right.

Healings Tears And Deep Repentance

SPEAKER_01 23:44

So so we had no three, so there are three main sessions where where the whole or the the multitude of all the attendees of the of the conference were in these three main sessions, Friday night and then two on Saturday. At the end of every main session, we had four prayer stations uh with about 25 pairs of ministry uh ministry teams paired up in twos at each one of those four stations. And uh every rally we had uh a lineup of students wanting to receive prayer ministry uh at these stations, which was beautiful to see just in its own its own right, to see the hunger for a touch from God. I want breakthrough, I want Jesus. I'm I'm ready to give give everything to him, all those things. And and I want you know, I want to be set free. And kids were being set free. Uh we had testimonies of healings happening physically for four kids, an elbow, uh, a leg uh were healed. Um we saw lots of tears, yeah, uh lots of honesty. Uh, the testimony of the prayer ministry team is that that many times throughout the prayer ministry sessions, the the reassuring a student that not only do they love Jesus, but Jesus loves you deeply, there would be like immediate moving to tears and brokenness and weeping as kids as Jesus was moving in to actually like reveal to these kids at a deep level I love you as you. And you know, you're the object of my focus right here and my desire. I love you. Those kinds of things were happening. But Anthony, I'm gonna tell you about one uh interaction that to me really captures like like to me, it captures this breaking out of a youth revival movement in our region. One of our prayer ministry teams testified to these three young young girls, probably 12 or 13 years old, just new to middle school, maybe grade seven or so. Uh they came up together, lot, you know, arm locked arm in arm to this prayer ministry team. And at first the prayer ministry team were thinking, Oh, this is just kind of you know, this is cute, kind of a cute prayer time. And then the girls came up and they said, What would you like prayer for? And they said, We want we want to forgive the bullies in our school. Wow. And we want them to come to know Jesus. And it stunned the prayer ministry team. It took them a moment to be like, okay, awesome. These girls wanted to repent of their unforgiveness. The prayer ministry team asked them, uh, have you have any have you girls been bullied by any of these students? Yeah, all three of us. And and we want to we would we just want to tell God we're sorry for our unforgiveness. We want to we want to lay that down, and we want them to come to know Jesus. And I'm stunning, stunning, stunning, yeah. Like comp like, and so that that kind of stuff was happening. Like deep discipleship issues, like calling issues. Yeah, we want to do, we really want to do this thing with Jesus.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

And yeah, so that was happening, but Anthony, I was also I was because I was so focused on well, can I can I just like a little bit just because I think one of the things I want to highlight is that number one, there was there's a few people that mentioned this. I think I think this is might be an alpha quote, and I'm thinking I'm gonna semi-butcher it. But really, it was like it was like Holy Spirit, come and write a story that we can't write on our own.

SPEAKER_01 27:30

We can yeah, that would grab me too.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

Oh, dude, that was so that's such a good. I think it was I think that's pretty pretty good. We could never write on our own. That we, yeah, that we couldn't write on our own. And so uh, and that to me, like think about the what think about the economy of what's required. Like the the world says, the world says, You've bullied me, so I'm going to respond in kind. Yes. Like, I'm going to respond also with my attempt to bully you.

SPEAKER_01 27:56

13-year-old girls tough enough to bully back.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

Bully the bully, violence in response to cancel the bully. Here's and here's the the stunning and even jarring nature of the kingdom that comes in and says through three young, maybe Shadrach, Meshach, and Eventually. I was just thinking about, I was just thinking that uh that said that that that said we're gonna operate in a different way. We feel the Lord asking us to do something radically different.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

Yeah. And they're asking this adult prayer ministry team, would you serve that? Yeah, would you just it's like, yes, what these young girls are saying, God, do this, right?

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Beautiful, right? It's it's it's jarring. Yeah, it's like because you're you know, because you like it's it's I think it's just that it would come from that situation through those girls, and you because it I was like, do do young people even think like that?

SPEAKER_01 28:58

Yes, I know, right? Like exactly, and here they are wrestling with very big concepts and ideas, and just like yeah, and there would have been nothing in the actual invitation to come for prayer that would have hinted at any of that.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

So it was obviously something that the Lord, yeah, the Holy Spirit was actually moving and stirring those girls in that way. Yeah, and they just here they are. Yep, unbelievable. So cool, so yeah, I mean it's just stunning.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

So I so I was focused there on what was happening at the official prayer stations, but then I saw photos afterwards, yes, and I was really overwhelmed by the amount of getting together and praying for one another that was happening throughout the arena. Kids down on their knees, yeah, down, you know, completely bowed down before the Lord, and then groups of them praying together, yeah, huddled up all around all around these unofficial prayer stations all over the arena. Yeah, you know, yeah, that was good.

SPEAKER_02 30:00

And I think I think it was just obvious to me. It was obvious to me that in and again, like it is a youth conference. There's gonna be loud music and there's gonna be hype and whatever, yeah. But it was just obvious to me the activity of the Lord, like the activity of the Holy Spirit throughout the room at any given time. There was just this sense of like, you know, the Lord doing things that were on a way bigger scale than I could, you know, that that I could comprehend. Yeah, and we got to see, you know, we got to see just a little snapshot here, snapshot there. Uh, one of the things, you know, this is just one of the things I felt like um one of the things I've I've said and I'd had a conversation with the Lord over the years is really I just wanted to be in the

Encouraging What God Already Started

SPEAKER_02 30:46

room. Yes. Like, like just yeah, I've heard that many times. Yeah. God, I just want to be in the room and I want to see what you're doing. Right. And this was definitely one of those moments where it seems like the, you know, we talked last week about the rising tides, the tides, the the waves, the the ebbs and flows. To me, this was a this wasn't just a wave. This was a rising, yeah. This was a this was a tide that's rising. Yeah, you know. Uh, and one of the the other thing I want to talk about was, you know, how these kinds of rallies in the past have seemed to me to be uh let's call everybody here, let's inspire them, yeah, and then send them out, right? Yeah, to to try and you know to do something. Right. Yeah. You know, I had this thought, I don't know, it was probably sometime on Saturday. I was like, I'm seeing something different. Yeah, right. It seems to me is that rather than that sort of model, although there is inspiration and encouragement, right? But but it was the inspiration and the encouragement to keep going because God is already doing something. Yes. It wasn't that we're gonna we're gonna come together, we're gonna worship Jesus, right, and then we're gonna send you out to do a thing. It was like we're gonna rally everybody together, but you're all coming with a sense that God's already up to something. Yes, and you're already participating in that. So what we're gonna do, gather you all together, encourage you, pray and minister to you, but then send you out to keep going, right? As opposed to maybe start something new. Like it seemed like we were this event was sort of in the flow of something already that God was doing. And we were there as leaders and as, you know, really as leaders and and you know, older people and to to just bless and say, like, let's just blow wind on the thing that God's already doing. Right. And so I just that was a really agreed, sort of an acute thought, like an acute, not acute thought, uh a strong thought. Yeah. That I had sort of, I was like, I was just I'm like, I'm watching something here. Right. And it was something that God is it isn't here, the these kids didn't come just to get a vision for what God could do. They already have a sense of what God is doing, right? Yes, and we're and we're just encouraging them. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

I don't know if you just oh yeah, all of that is so powerful. Uh

Do You See This New Thing

SPEAKER_01 33:30

the the I I I I wanted to highlight that the words you're using, I think, are so important for for people to to sort of sit with. You're using words like, I'm seeing this, yeah, I saw this, I saw the fires springing up all over Canada. I the Lord caused me to see that. You know, I I'm I was watching it happen. Like, oh yeah like those are powerful, yes, those are powerful words to the prophetic community of the church. Yes. And it it like those those who are pressing in saying, God, I want to hear and see for your purposes. Right.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

And I think this is where you're going, like the the Isaiah Ezekiel thing where it's like the invitation of God to see to see. Like, what do you see? Right? Yes, yes, exactly. Right. And it's like we talked, I I think you see for a reason, you're right. Yeah, but it's but it's the it's the Ezekiel, the river of God.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Yes, and that is in that.

SPEAKER_02 34:34

But it's specifically, it's the invitation of like, so he led me back to the river, and it was like the question wasn't what do you think? Do you see this? Right. And and then the the Isaiah, I think it was like 43. Yeah, 43 is like right. It's the it's the behold, I'm doing a new thing. Yeah, it's do you not perceive it? But it's really the invitation to go, okay, I'm God's like, I'm doing something, do you see it?

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Right, right. And so there's a there's a subtle place of control if I think, if I translate God's question to, do you want to see this? Yeah, that puts the ball back in my court. Well, maybe, maybe not. Right. Because I know you're gonna do it anyway, whether I see it or not. Right. That's not what God's asking me. God's saying, what do you see? Right. Do you see this? Do you not perceive this? Like it it matters to God that I see the thing He needs me to see. Yes, like it's not a toy I play around with. Sure, I'd love to see in advance. Yeah, no, I got I know you're gonna do it anyway, but sure, it'd be kind of fun to know what you're gonna do in advance. He's like, No, no, no, no, you're missing what's going on here. Yeah, I am asking you because it matters that you see it. Yes, because it's like this if you see what I need you to see, you will be ready when the moment comes. Yeah, and I was humbled and jarred and joyful, all those things at the same time, but watching and seeing what was going on at one conference in real time, on earth as it is in heaven, kind of on earth, very on earth was there in front of us. But it went back to a year ago-ish, when the Lord in a dream inspired me to Ezekiel 47, verse 6, saying, The man, you know, the man asked me, Son of Man, do you see this? Right. And then he led me back to the bank of the river. And then it described everywhere the river flows, everything lives. But the critical question was, Do you see this? And a year-ish or so ago, I said, God, if you're asking me, apparently I don't. Right. Yeah, apparently I don't. If you're asking me, I probably don't see this. Can we talk about what I see and can you inform my vision? Yeah, like I want to see what it is you're asking me about. And yeah, so when we came to, and I'm thinking about your heart as you were in the back of that arena too, and and and the perhaps hundreds of others in that arena looking on that have been praying and God's been showing them. Yeah, we're looking on going, This is this is the thing. This is that like he prepared our hearts to be watching for this, and then when we see it, yeah, we're we're like we're overjoyed because what if I would have missed this? What if I would have ignored God's question? Yeah, and so just to just to highlight that right there, like it is so key. Yeah, like who knows what God is showing somebody who's even listening to this podcast right now, who knows what God is, God's got you in a place and he's asking you a question, what do you see? Yeah, do you do you not perceive the new thing?

SPEAKER_02 37:58

Right. And I think this is the challenge. And I guess I think if I mean one, if you're listening to this, you already got a you're gonna already gonna have a grid for this, right? But the the it's the it's the invitation of Paul to to fix your eyes on what is unseen. Yeah. What is unseen is eternal. Right. Right. There is a because because there we were in that room, and yes, there were there was there was music, there was lights, there was loud. Dancing which made my joints hurt. Yes. Even though I wasn't even moving, right? Just watching it happening, so but yet, yet the thing that we're paying attention to is like what's what's happening in the invisible. Like what is what is God up to that isn't that I that is beneath what I can see with my eyes. Absolutely. And again, we can see signs of that with the tears, with the with the you know, the the girls coming and repenting or you know, repenting of unforgiveness and those kinds of things. We can see the signs a little bit that because they're sort of um noticeable, but that the thing that I'm really interested in, and I, you know, I think we are, is that okay, so there's something bigger going on here that we can't see with our eyes, right? That we're really aware of, yeah, and it's really that we're perceiving something that God's up to, but it's invisible. Right. Like, and we're really interested, and it's like we've we've we have language for this, and we we talk in these terms of like God, you know, what we're really interested in the eternal work, like the work that's happening in the unseen, right? And that, you know, neither you or I or anybody else can make that happen, right? Right, it's really only in partnership with you, Holy Spirit, right, you know, that yeah, that the invisible work is is is doing is is being done. Yeah, right. And so that's the thing.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

Yeah, we don't get to inform the Holy Spirit of what's going on in the invisible realm.

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Exactly, exactly. Because I mean, again, none of us are all that good at being aware of that, right? But we're getting we get invited into it in this way that, you know, in this mystical way that heaven meets earth, where, you know, again, we do these things, we put on these events, we do all the work required to logistics and leaders and you know, details and rentals and all of that stuff. We we come and I, you know, we come together and we just say, we believe that you've shown us something. And we're doing we're doing this because we honestly, not because we're doing in this and you know, requiring you, Holy Spirit, right to come, right? But we recognize to the we're doing it because we recognize to some extent that you're up to something, Lord. Right. And we're doing our best to partner with you in that. And it seems to me that that's the heart and the vein of uh that that that someone who wants to see God move, just they there's a humility in that. Like we're not gonna do nothing, God. We got to do something, right? And we believe God that you're moving in this next generation. So what can we do?

Building The Altar Together

SPEAKER_02 41:08

What can we do to build an altar? Right? Like, and again, like there's a that's a that's a powerful but yet a very real image to what one con is. Right. We've built, we've man has piled the stones on the thing, yeah, and we've humbly said this this will only ever be a uh pile of rocks. A pile of rocks, right? But we don't want this to be uh a pile of rocks. In fact, we're doing our best to call this an altar, right? Right, but we can't we can't do the of the fire part, right? Right. We have like the Holy Spirit, you have to do the fire part, right? And so, like to me, that's a that's a powerful image of what these kinds of events are, right? Right, right in the like humanity does its best to cobble the rocks together, right, and then has the audacity, perhaps, to call it an altar, right? And then the Holy Spirit in his love and his mercy and his faithfulness comes and brings the fire and does the thing that the human can't do. Right, right, and so you know, and so his people can't do it. And I to me, I think that is such a that's a beautiful picture of what that was, like, and it just happened to be a room full of 4,000 teenagers, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

And and I I would just love to savor this moment for for savor this for a moment, yeah, to say there were perhaps hundreds of us in the room who tend to be very prophetic, right? And there were also hundreds of us in the room who tend to be more shepherding or more teaching or more apostolic or event or evangelists, yeah. And it was this beautiful display of all kinds of leadership giftings going on in this weekend, totally, uh, where like a whole company of prophets likely could not have pulled off. 100%. I agree. I agree. It it it there was there was the body of Christ was was connected in a beautiful way throughout the conference and to be able to appreciate one another, to be able to appreciate the like you were mentioning the youth alpha groups, yeah. Okay, without the activity of youth alpha over the last couple of years, those testimonies wouldn't have happened. Totally. And we hardly I like there there were movements like the organizations working together throughout the room that would be very unaware of each other throughout the rest of the year, maybe. And yet all of the all of the fires God's been lighting all over Atlantic Canada and probably across the nation, but definitely Atlanta Canada is being talked about in this room. Yeah. Suddenly there's this look what God's doing. Yeah, this is wild. And so just to give a shout out to the body of Christ in that sense of yeah, it's not only those who see perhaps more easily than some others, yeah, because of their gifting and their bent or whatever, however, that all works out. This doesn't only take that that crew, it takes the whole body of Christ to do a thing. And I just want to just really say, God, thank you for all of that. Um amazing. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 44:33

Yeah. I think you know, it I think just it's worth circling again. Um just the Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego is that are just being called out and called up in in this day because it does seem as though, yeah, right? Like I just say, I, you know, again, I was really sort of hovering around that in my head before you mentioned it. Okay, good. And it's just, I just I feel as though um, I just feel the significant thing of like like as a heart of you know, both you and I are well beyond our teen years.

Championing Youth Without Controlling

SPEAKER_02 45:13

And uh, but I just I think this is the the challenge. I wonder if this is maybe the challenge, because I don't know how many teens might listen to this, but I'm sure there are plenty of adults, is the challenge for the the adult or the leader in the room is to is to be a champion, right? Is to be the the one who encourages, the one who blesses, the one who prays for, the one who comes as supports, right? And not the one who sort of is the overbearing, like I, you know, again, we don't necessarily have these thoughts, but we can act in a way that makes it seem like okay, we're the ones that have the life experience, so we know what's going on. I mean, as we don't, like again, yeah, for all that we think we know, we don't know really. And I think that the the challenge and the call to you know the older generations is to acknowledge, to see, to bless, to to encourage, to breathe, you know, to breathe some wind on on a younger generation because it it is clear, you know, there are times um where God, and it's not even just times, but it's like it's littered throughout the Bible where God will do, will change nations through a willing young person. Right. Right. Right. And it's like there's not a you know, you know, Paul's encouragement to Timothy, don't look peep, let people look down on you because you're young. It's the right, you know, it's the the it's Shadrach, Meshenak, and Abednego. It's uh you know, even David, right? David at a at a young age changed a nation because and and I don't I don't say these things to put pressure on, right, but it is at least, you know, it is it beho it it behooves, it behooves the older generation to not try and smother that. Yeah, right. Even you know, with the picture of like Saul's armor being put on David and being like, what, this is too much. I don't, this is not how I work, but at least to just bless and encourage and say, keep going, yeah, and to help and just to resource. How do you how can I help you? And I, you know, I've seen that through you know, throughout, you know, you know, the last number of years, man, things where young people do something remarkable and just the heart to go, like, how can I help you? Right. Right. And so I just I think the I think the call is is for the older generation is to just maybe not get it not get in the way of that, but just to step out of the way, right, say, how can I help you? Right. But you have the heart, the passion, and the drive to do that. And it seems like God's really stirred you to do that. Okay, great. I'm I'm gonna be your big your biggest cheerleader in that. Right. And so I think that's the call to maybe the older generation is to pray for, to bless, you know, all the things that I just said. But anyway, man, just throwing it, just throwing it out there. Yeah. Uh, you know, and then we we all you know, we all get to participate. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And if we're humble enough, you know, if there's a certain uh here here's a just another thought. Like we all get to participate, and if we're humble enough, we'll the Lord will find ways to get us in the room.

SPEAKER_01 48:54

Yes, right.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

Yeah. Because if I wanted to do, if I wanted to take over, right, and if I wanted to to be the point person all the time, well, I'm probably not going to be in the room. Yeah, right. Right. Yeah. But but the from uh from I think from the Lord's perspective, that you know, when we're willing to encourage and when we're willing to to bless, we're willing to prophesy over, we're willing to pray for, right, um, and serve, not just the we would serve, let's say, serve, serve ultimately what God's doing, but to serve a generation, yeah, right, to wash their feet. Right. Right. Yeah. Then then God will find ways to get you, not get you in the game, but like to, you know, you know what I'm saying? Involve, involve you. If you're this is the heart, and I and so maybe I don't know. I think it's your I think it's your turn to pray. It is. Uh

Prayer For Consuming Fire

SPEAKER_02 49:53

yeah. But as we're sort of here landing the plane, just kind of like resting in the the yeah, sort of the glow of what God's doing. Yeah, maybe that's maybe that's just a way that we can pray for the the older generations.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

Yeah, yeah. And I so on behalf of myself and those listening, hey, why don't you rewind this podcast and listen to the last couple of minutes again in preparation for this prayer? Because that was so crucial what Anthony was laying out there. And just amen. Thank you for sharing what you just did over that last bit. And I would like to take that whole thing and really focus in on praying for. I'm gonna, I'd like to pray out of this. And just real quick, I'd like to pray out of Hebrews, which says, Let us worship God with reverence and awe because our God is a consuming fire. Um, now I'd like to pray out of that, but I'd like to keep in mind the picture of Shadrach, Meshach, Adam Benigo being thrown into the fiery furnace. Yeah. But there was, here's the thing I would like to say prophetically, there was a fire upon their life and a presence with their life that overcame the enemy's fire. Yeah. Like that fire was supposed to kill them and destroy them. And what happened was it only burned off the things that were binding them. And that fire became God's fire. And I just would like to pray collectively for all of us just to that God would bless the younger generations with a consuming fire of God that will actually overcome the enemy's fire, the fire of whatever they might need to walk into. So, God, we just come. We we we pray to the best of our ability what seems to be a really big prayer. And we think it is a, we feel it is a big prayer because of your sovereign plans, God, which are much bigger than any of us and all of us put together. We do declare, God, that we come and we do worship you with reverence and awe, for you are a consuming fire. And I just want to say, Lord, but you are consuming fire that we're drawn to. Like this only works in your kingdom, God, that you are you are a ferocious consuming fire, and yet we're drawn to you. Somehow our life is in that consuming fire of God. In Christ Jesus, you have opened the way for us to not run from the fire of God, but be consumed by it. And God, with that picture in mind, I just want to imagine Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. And even imagining these middle school girls as Shadrach and Meshach and Abednego, and may represent the youth movement, God, throughout the world, really, the youth population of the church today. We just say, God, would you be upon this generation with your consuming fire? Yeah. Would you be the fourth person in the fire? That that your very presence with this generation, God, will actually overwhelm the fire of the enemy meant to destroy and will actually bring great glory to your name. And Lord, help us just to do our part as intercessors, as uh cheerleaders in the lives of and champions and the lives of the younger generation. God, give us the wisdom. Lord, help us to walk in submission and surrender with our vision. We just say to you, own our eyes, our ears, God, our hearts, that we would perceive and see what you want us to see. Amen. God, we just surrender, heal, heal our perception, heal our eyes, heal our ears, and restore our sight and our vision. Uh for your glory, God. We do we thank you for one conference, Lord. May it bear abundant fruit a hundred times what was sown. Yeah. In Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Well, that's a wrap on this episode. It's been a privilege to have you as an honored guest as we all learn to hear God better.

SPEAKER_02 54:00

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